Episode 37.5 – Pike vs Stine: Round 2

We’re back for the second half of our epic Pike vs Stine discussion! Today, Robin, Ollie, and I discuss our Pike picks, Chain Letter and Remember Me, with a side rant about one of RL Stine’s newer titles, The Lost Girl. Plus: Christopher Pike and cultural appropriation.

That’s a big fuckin’ elephant.


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What are your guys’ feels on Christopher Pike? Which side do you come down on? Has anybody written ANYTHING on Pike and appropriation? Let us know in the comments!

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Theme music is Overnight, by Aya.

WARNING: NSFW! Mature audiences only! Contains salty language, subversive ideas, industry-challenging discussions, and nuts.


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  • Olivia

    Olivia

    April 7, 2016

    jfc, listening to this and just hit the weird who is related to who part of “Remember Me” and it just sounds like jibberish if I hadn’t read the book. XD

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  • LurkerRobot

    April 8, 2016

    This was really, really fun for me to listen to! It’s funny, actually, because CampNaNoWriMo is going on and I’m actually writing a story that’s similar to Remember Me right now. I feel a little like I’m accidentally following the trend, haha. So it was interesting from a “ah yes, that’s a good idea I MEAN.” I really love listening to Cyna and Ollie bitching about books. It’s really … relaxing? Interesting? And Robin, too! I love her quick and blunt responses, they make me laugh 🙂 “Oh no, it’s just bad.” BOOM. (I’m paraphrasing, my memory is terrible >(

    Can’t wait for the next Jabberwocky I MEAN JABBIC 😀 I might try reading Christopher Pike in the meantime (I’d never heard of him until now, honestly.)
    Sorry for the long comment!

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    • LurkerRobot

      April 8, 2016

      WAIT, MY COMMENT MESSED UP BECAUSE I PUT IN HTML BY ACCIDENT OMG let me paste it in its glorious length wow I’m dumb.

      This was really, really fun for me to listen to! It’s funny, actually, because CampNaNoWriMo is going on and I’m actually writing a story that’s similar to Remember Me right now. I feel a little like I’m accidentally following the trend, haha. So it was interesting from a “ah yes, that’s a good idea I MEAN.” I really love listening to Cyna and Ollie bitching about books. It’s really … relaxing? Interesting? And Robin, too! I love her quick and blunt responses, they make me laugh 🙂 “Oh no, it’s just bad.” BOOM. (I’m paraphrasing, my memory is terrible!)

      I don’t even remember much of what I read as a kid. Definitely lots of Babysitter Club books and Goosebumps books. (I inherited some and I read them quickly so I blew through a lot of them. (Also, WHY DIDN’T THEY AGE (in BSC) UGH IT WAS SO ANNOYING. I know the author explained it (the series went on so long the “youngest charges would have been entering college [by now]”) but AUGH IT DROVE ME CRAZY) Maybe a little Saddle Club and Sweet Valley High (they had peaches and cream complexions! PEACHES AND CREAM COMPLEXIONS. I don’t know why that stuck in my brain so badly but it did.) And the Harry Potter books at some point – at least the first couple. Oh, and Animorphs!! I’m 95% sure none of them would stand up to the test of time, except probably Animorphs (I’ve gotta re-read those at some point now I can get them digitally and it’s less hassle) (Also not a HP fan *flees*)

      There was also the Obernewtyn books (the first few) and Sara Douglass’s earlier trilogies… And Anne Bishop’s Black Jewels trilogy… Half of the Wheel of Time, some David Eddings. It’s so long ago, it’s hard to remember 😉 I basically raided my step-dad’s bookshelves (lots of 70s/80s sci-fi/fantasy) and abused my school library and read whatever looked interesting and was more than an inch thick (I read really fast as a kid/teen.) The only one that really stands out is John Marsden, now I think about it. He’s an Australian author that wrote the “Tomorrow When the War Began” series (SO GOOD, SO GOOD, but the sequels are SO WEIRD, SO WEIRD (The MC talks about her dad’s penis just out of nowhere like OKAY WHOA)) and some other really amazing standalones. My favourites are probably Dear Miffy, Winter, and Checkers. Just… really tragic stories that have stuck with me all these years. I lost my copy of Winter and I’ve never found another and it makes me really sad. There was also Maureen McCarthy’s ‘Chain of Hearts’ which I loved because of the cover and then loved because of the writing/story. Whew, sorry, that’s a lot of books!

      I left you guys a review ages and ages ago! I tried to ask some friends to listen and leave some of their own but I’m not sure if they did. Terrible friends, honestly!

      Can’t wait for the next Jabberwocky I MEAN JABBIC 😀 I might try reading Christopher Pike in the meantime (I’d never heard of him until now, honestly.)
      Sorry for the long comment! AND FOR POSTING IT TWICE AHAHAahahahahahhah D:

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      • Olivia

        Olivia

        April 10, 2016

        Oh Lurker :3 <3 This was the most epic of comments I've seen here.

        Hahah, "Papercuts Podcast: Come listen to the relaxing sounds of us bitching about books".

        If you end up reading Pike, let us know what you think! Since all 3 of us at the podcast still have "Last Vampire" nostalgia goggles, you might start there. XD

        I also read Babysitter's Club books. I can see those pastel colored covers in my brain, o.o I always wanted to be Claudia, the artist, but was more likely Mallory what with the billion siblings. Oh gods, I just looked at the first book's cover--they're like 4th graders right?? i mean, lookit them! so little!

        > Sweet Valley High (they had peaches and cream complexions! PEACHES AND CREAM COMPLEXIONS. I don’t know why that stuck in my brain so badly but it did.)

        I could have gone another lifetime without remembering that lol

        > Oh, and Animorphs!! I’m 95% sure none of them would stand up to the test of time, except probably Animorphs (I’ve gotta re-read those at some point now I can get them digitally and it’s less hassle)

        I read a few of them a while back and they were quick, easy reads. But the plot is pretty decent in the overall arc way.

        > (Also not a HP fan *flees*)

        Solidarity.

        > The only one that really stands out is John Marsden, now I think about it. He’s an Australian author that wrote the “Tomorrow When the War Began” series

        > I left you guys a review ages and ages ago! I tried to ask some friends to listen and leave some of their own but I’m not sure if they did. Terrible friends, honestly!

        If you find the itunes review you left, screencap it and tweet to @YAPapercuts! Give Maverynthia some competition. :3

        THANK YOU FOR THE HUGE COMMENT, LURKER’BOT!

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      • Cyna

        Cyna

        April 10, 2016

        Oh man, I read BSC and Animorphs! BSC was my FAV as a kid, especially the mysteries. I was going to name my kids after the Sitters, depending on what color hair it came out with.

        Animorphs is apparently a pretty popular thing to re-visit for bloggers? I’ve seen at least a couple doing the Great Animorphs Re-Read, and it’d be tempting if there weren’t so fucking many. But yeah, those were THE SHIT. Remember the Animorphs Choose Your Own Adventures? And the Chronicles? Those were the best.

        Now something that might warrant re-reading: Everworld. There are only like twelve of those and they’re YA proper, with an actual bi character, I think, and one who had OCD. Also they were all huge messes, and assholes, which was great.

        I didn’t read SVH, but I DO remember “peaches and cream” complexions, which I guess makes sense in retrospect, but as a child confused me as much as the incredibly obtuse “olive complexion” description authors liked to drop as a HINT HINT they’re not white, apparently. Went right over my head.

        I did read Fearless though. Those were the shit. Maybe. NOSTALGIA.

        HA, you had the dad with the fantasy shelf 😀 Mine had a Piers Anthony shelf. Fun.

        I second Ollie! Screencap your review, pick up a free book! Maybe Ollie can dig you up a Pike.

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  • draconismoi

    April 10, 2016

    Anyone else here read the Dragonriders of Pern series in the 80s/90s? I read the shit out of those and loved them!

    The nostalgia glasses were shattered when I re-read the first one in college and discovered just how very rapey it all was. Sigh. But oh how I loved them in middle and high school.

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