Episode 61 – Fairytale Retellings

We’ve got another guest! Our good friend Whitley Birks of Reading With a Vengeance is back to talk about YA fairytale retellings! What makes for a good retelling? How much can you change and still remain true to the original story? Should you update the morals inherent to the story? And what the fuck ARE most of those morals, anyway? All good questions that we sort of discuss in between complaints about Beauty and the Beast and dick jokes. You’re welcome.

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Theme music is Overnight, by Aya.

WARNING: NSFW! Mature audiences only! Contains salty language, subversive ideas, industry-challenging discussions, and nuts.


  • RobotLurker

    April 20, 2017

    i was checking twitter for something else (i’m never on twitter) and i SAW THIS and i squealed because omg, omg OMG my two favourite things colliding. again!! and it’s not even my birthday or anything!
    i guess my plans for the next couple of hours are CANCELLED SO I CAN LISTEN TO THIS INSTEAD 😀

    also all this talk of Cinderella makes me wonder if any of you heard of Cinders? it was this SUPER CUTE visual novel game that i didn’t beat completely… Oops! it’s on steam. the art is BEAUTIFUL too. Like, B E A U T I F U L!!
    it’s still a little expensive, but if you ever see it on sale i would definitely pick it up, it makes a huge effort to give more depth to the stepsisters/stepmother instead of just painting them with “EVIIIILLLL AND UGGGGLYYY”
    well, i remember the game trying to do that. i could be wrong, my memory is terrible 😀

    … also i would totally listen to a scene-by-scene breakdown of beauty and the beast just throwing that out there 😀

    also also when i was a WEE THING i read and loved Daughter of the Forest by Juliet Marillier which is, if I remember right, a Six Swans retelling, but it’s suuuuuper fantasy, iirc.

    anyway this was a lot of fun to listen to and I would totally come back for “what IS the moral of all of these stories?!” 😀
    (i mean i’d come back anyway because you’re all my favourites ♥♥♥♥)

    • Ollie

      April 26, 2017

      <3 <3 <3

    • Cyna


      April 29, 2017

      God bless u Robot Lurker.

  • draconismoi

    April 29, 2017

    I know of one Cinderella retelling that made the “wicked stepmother and stepsisters” actual good people and fully fleshed out characters. Embers by Bettie Sharp. It was a self-published thing that could have used an editor (the conclusion comes too abruptly – come on build this up more!) but was otherwise a lot of fun.

    In it Cinderella is actually a witch, and the stepmother is a madame from a neighboring country who married Cinderella’s dad to help her daughters (two prostitutes) flee the country. All four women are great friends. The standard Cinderella tropes about the wicked stepmother and stepsisters turning the poor orphan girl into a servant and such are just rumors spread by the neighbors.

    • Cyna


      April 29, 2017

      I love this I love this I love this I love this


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